Race for the 9th...

**R13** · November 1st, 2010, 12:30 PM

I didn't say it wasn't stupid on their part 1) telling them that and 2) them believing it...it wasn't a company message, it was several supervisors and it got spread everywhere within the place. It wasn't believed by everyone, a lot knew they can't do that, but it was significant enough for us to have to go there and for it to be looked into - voter intimidation is some serious stuff too.

There's no targeting of a gender, it's only really split up into two groups when we call and that's based on age. 18- 59 and 60 - to whatever. Those lists are printed off and called from, a lot of times couples will show up, but sometimes the names aren't beside each other and the person calling doesn't check to see if there's others in that household. I always check the numbers before I start and mark the couples(sometimes more, a son or daughter or someone else). But sometimes they don't show up in the list either, I've had plenty say "you can/can not count on me AND my husband/wife vote, even though they're not on my list). We just ask for the name on the list though.

**1inStripes** · November 1st, 2010, 12:41 PM

I am sure I can find out how legitimate it was one way or the other. I have plenty of friends and family at both locations.

**1inStripes** · November 1st, 2010, 02:04 PM

Honestly how many more times should I expect a call for my wife today from Rick Boucher's constitutes? I just received another from a different lady after I spoke for 10 minutes or so with the other lady. This time it ticked me off. This time it showed up as Abingdon, VA on my caller ID so I had an idea, the other said "Cell Phone TN", and I assumed it was my uncle calling. This is showing a lack of quality control/organizational skills on Bouchers office IMO.

Also, to set something straight that you mentioned in UTVols2 post the other day when you said Griffith, and Republican PACs have spent 2.4 million on this campaign, hasn't Bouchers budget alone been 2.1 mil? I am not sure about any Dem PACs allotments, but its not like we are talking apples and oranges between the 2. A little over 800k was all the contributions Griffith himself had funding for according to the KTN today, so apparently the PACs have been his biggest bidder.

**centennialdawg** · November 1st, 2010, 03:47 PM

I am sure everyone has seen the commercial with the coal miners backing Boucher by now. What about the last miner, named Barney Tiller from Honaker? According to him, Rick Boucher is the "honestest" person you will ever meet. This isn't meant to give kudos to either side, just that I think they could have gotten the guy to be correct in his pronunciation. Is that a word?

**R13** · November 1st, 2010, 11:55 PM

Originally Posted by 1inStripes

Honestly how many more times should I expect a call for my wife today from Rick Boucher's constitutes? I just received another from a different lady after I spoke for 10 minutes or so with the other lady. This time it ticked me off. This time it showed up as Abingdon, VA on my caller ID so I had an idea, the other said "Cell Phone TN", and I assumed it was my uncle calling. This is showing a lack of quality control/organizational skills on Bouchers office IMO.

Also, to set something straight that you mentioned in UTVols2 post the other day when you said Griffith, and Republican PACs have spent 2.4 million on this campaign, hasn't Bouchers budget alone been 2.1 mil? I am not sure about any Dem PACs allotments, but its not like we are talking apples and oranges between the 2. A little over 800k was all the contributions Griffith himself had funding for according to the KTN today, so apparently the PACs have been his biggest bidder.

Dude, wtf? I explained to you how the calling works, it's easy to call someone twice accidentally. Then when you have several offices calling from lists that some of the same numbers on them, people are going to get called several times. We can't call another office and tell them "hey, we just called this guy, mark him off" every two seconds. Overlapping happens, mistakes happen, all part of the process when you're making thousands of calls.

It looks like everything you said was mostly right, I just don't get what you're asking or setting straight?

**1inStripes** · November 2nd, 2010, 12:01 AM

Wouldn't it make more sense for one office to get a certain group of numbers and another office get another set and so forth and so on instead of everyone getting the same thing. That just confirms for me poor planning and organization.

I just wanted to make sure that was accurate. You played it off like Griffith was trying to buy the election and spend way more than Boucher IMO in the post the other day.

**R13** · November 2nd, 2010, 12:29 AM

It doesn't work like that. The site it is gotten from doesn't divide them up based on offices, you print off all available numbers(slowly narrowed down each time) and printed off. We are only responsible for Lee, Wise and Scott and that's what available to us. The Abingdon office for instance can print them off for where ever, some may be in our area too, there's nothing we can do about that and the names being printed off means they haven't been contacted during this tier of calls - or that the data hasn't been put into the comp yet to take (insert name) off of the list and we don't put every sheet in there at that time each time we're done with one. Nothing poorly run about it, it's run the only way it can be, the goal is to contact as many as we can, some fall through the cracks and get called twice.

No I didn't, it's not like I denied anything about Boucher. My whole point in that exchange was that all of that money, well most has been used for attack ads/negative campaigning - majority coming from pacs from untraceable money(to us) since the pacs don't have to release anything to us.

**1inStripes** · November 2nd, 2010, 12:39 AM

Then reality is that someone should be put in the Abingdon office early in the AM gathering this information and producing a distribution list of which offices get which numbers with a few people cross referencing. You are losing valuable time making sure the maximum number of contacts could be made without doubling up as does happen. It all goes back to organization. Almost any list should be able to be transferred into a Excel spreadsheet and reorganized by number or last name and be able to be cleaned up and divided out properly to multiple offices.

**CoeburnCane** · November 2nd, 2010, 08:47 AM

As long as we're talking about wasting time/resources and annoying me w/multiple contacts...I went to my PO box last night (I had checked it last Thursday, mind you), and there were 12 different mailers from the RNC either for Griffith or anti-Boucher/Dem. Why not send one with fact-checked information and cogent arguments for their candidates? Instead, I get one with "Are you happy voting for the most pro-abortion congressman in Virginia?" and that's the only stuff on it, other than the flipside talking about how much Griffith loves his family and if I love mine--I should vote for him.

C'mon, man. That's facking annoying.

There were two not-so flashy ones from Boucher's campaign that had more writing on them discussing issues than all the Griffith ones combined. So--on a 6-1 ratio, that may look like a success for Griffith, but the pure fact that I had to sift through the drek the RNC sent to me did enough to turn me off to the possibility of casting a vote for Griffith.

**1inStripes** · November 2nd, 2010, 04:17 PM

Its kind of amazing that everyone doesn't get the same stuff. I got about the same amount of propaganda from Griffith and his PACs as I did Boucher and his groups. I got one from the Democratic Party that I thought was a Griffith ad. Boucher was mentioned no where, it just had Griffith on it, and finally said Vote NO to Morgan Griffith.